Since David Keen’s very pertinent post last week drawing attention to the statistical realities, I’ve been pondering a list of the big conversations the Church of England really ought to be having with itself, its friends and often the wider society.
I’m not wedded to any of these as essential or likely to provide easy answers. Nor have I signed on in blood to any particular solution. I’m more throwing out some ideas for big conversations with some illustrative points along the way. All of them have all sorts of ramifications and caveats that a more careful post on any would acknowledge and discuss.
Conversation 1 – Establishment
This is one of those questions where the time is probably never right, and the ramifications broader and deeper than they seem. However, creeping disestablishment can only get so far before what is left begins to seem strange if not absurd. Establishment was based on the never quite realised aspiration that the country was a theopolitical unity, and to be a subject of the monarch was to be an adherent to the monarch’s religion. It never quite worked, but as recent debates over the presence of bishops in the Lords have shown, it is now more delusion than aspiration. On the other hand, what seems odd at the level of national politics seems much more natural at the local level, where the same national unity gives rights of marriage and burial in the parish church by virtue of residence nor religion. It’s an exploration that needs to happen more generally, and not just the next time an apparent last ditch comes along.
Conversation 2 – Buildings
It seems to me that for many parishes everything is driven out by the costs and energies absorbed by maintaining often very beautiful and ancient buildings. Having just spent two and half years going through the processes need to demolish an unused and dangerously dilapidated chapel of rest, I’m appalled by the cumbersome mechanisms involved. I’d like to see some serious discussion about new legislation allowing church buildings to be handed over to community trusts, and the church becoming one organisation that rents the buildings as required within in some kind of statutory framework which acknowledges their history and tradition appropriately. Then, if a community didn’t want to take ownership of a building the church no longer wanted or could afford to maintain, such a refusal would become prima facie evidence of “no pastoral need” allowing redundancy to be fast-tracked.
Conversation 3 – Clergy
The declining number of stipendiary clergy was at the heart of David’s post, and it seems that for a very long time this has been a problem where nearly everyone has colluded in pretending it’s not that bad. (PS – developing lay ministries is an ongoing conversation, not one that’s being avoided, so it’s not included here.) So, with monotonous regularity, one pastoral reorganisation succeeds another. Any energy left over from dealing with buildings is dissipated in trying to concoct schemes that persuade parishes that, while they are getting less of a share in a vicar than they were before, and paying more for the privilege, they are at least getting a fair share that is possibly slightly better than the one next door. There are now so few stipendiary clergy that it might be time to ask
- whether we should plan for non-stipendiary ministry being the normal exercise of a priestly vocation and see stipendiary ministry as more strategic, focused on big churches (e.g. minsters, church-planting and mission centres and cathedrals) as area deans, as some specialist ministries and so on
- whether that means seeing stipendiary and non-stipendiary ministries alike as something people can move in and out of (often from one to the other), and change the stipend to a salary which allows either the purchase of housing, or (as appropriate) the paying of rent for church owned property.
Conversation 4 – Education
It seems to me that there simply aren’t enough Christian teachers (not all of whom wish to work in church schools) to maintain a living and dynamic Christian ethos in most of our church schools that is organic, natural and life-changing rather than another curricular structure providing boxes to be ticked. Moreover, the vast majority of church primary (or first) school pupils don’t have church secondaries to go to. Dare I suggest that despite the good intentions of so many, the system always runs the risk of suggesting God is a good story for small children, but can be left behind as you learn more about the world?
Church schools are actually quite expensive for the church. Either we need to do better with fewer schools and look more like the Roman Catholic model, or decide to rethink the church’s involvement in education well beyond school ethos. Too much of the education system is justified by economic competition rather than human development, and Ofsted tick- boxes produce a examination sausage machine instead of the nurturing of individual ability, the love of learning or the pursuit of truth. Sticking a spiritual patina on that system and then speaking of the celebration of Christian values may not commend those values too well.
Conversation 5 – Vision and communication
Whatever else our language about God is saying, it is also articulating a vision of what it means to be human. I suspect that not only is the question “what does it mean to be human?” going to become more and more important for society, it’s going to become more contested. The danger is that – as in debates over sexuality – the church will be heard only saying “no” to debates that other people have started. I think we need to be much more active in developing our own vision, and starting our own debates, rather than simply responding to a narrow field of sex, abortion and euthanasia. It is interesting, isn’t it, that no-one questions the way a magazine called the “Economist” can address every area of life, but most would laugh at the pretensions of a similar style of magazine called the “Theologian”.
Sharing a vision for being human (and what it means to live wisely) as more than either academic luxury, or in-house conversation purely with ourselves, will, I think, demand the church to take all forms of media more seriously. I’m not suggesting a proliferation of PR people, but asking whether churches need to foster vocations to screen-writing and sharp documentary work, to new media networking and inventive programme making. In most respects the media is not just the Areopagus of the age, but the only public square we still share. If we have a real vision of humanity to share, could we talk about how to do it creatively, and not wait until someone else’s story puts us defensively on the spot.
I’ve no idea how much mileage there is in any of these, or how much I will have changed my mind by next week on any of them, but I think there’re at least one or two conversation starters in that ragbag selection of opinions.
Doug, this is all good stuff. I wonder though whether these conversations have become necessary because of the lack of an even more important question? That being something like “who is Jesus and how is he calling us to live in him and for him?”.
Your post does not mention Jesus at all. That to me is the root problem. Churches that talk to Jesus and about Jesus rarely decline.
Hi Rich.
I’m deliberately keeping focussed on the structural problems in this post. I think many – most – of the people who put a lot of effort into some of the things I suggest need to change are good, prayerful people trying to follow Jesus faithfully.
I liked this a lot:
‘no-one questions the way a magazine called the “Economist” can address every area of life, but most would laugh at the pretensions of a similar style of magazine called the “Theologian”.’
In so many ways it is the root of the problem.
All conversations I would like to be involved in – so where do we have them?
I wish I knew!
We have them all the time at All Saints
Doug – have you looked at my book ‘let us be human’ – just trying to do what you’re describing here! (I’ll happily send you a free copy in exchange for a review ;o) My next book – nearly done – is pursuing question 3, and offering a few possible solutions. My two pennies is that all this structural stuff is ultimately beside the point. Our root problem is that we no longer take the faith seriously, we no longer see it as a matter of life and death – so why should anyone else take it on?
I confess I haven’t read your book. I may be more inclined to think the structural stuff matters than you. Perhaps reviewing your book on the blog would be a way of continuing the conversation
Actually, I do think the structural stuff is vital – and it is what needs to be sorted out – but I don’t think we’ll be able to do that vital work correctly unless we come at it from the proper theological ground (ie building on rock, not sand). I’ll stick a blogpost up on this soon… PS send me your snail mail address and I’ll send you the book
‘soon’ meaning about ten days later http://elizaphanian.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/the-dying-of-church-is-not-management.html
Thanks Doug. I agree that many people involved in these conversations are people of deep faith, but my point remains that we don’t talk to and about Jesus together, ahead of approaching these church questions. Until we have a fresh, burning, SHARED Jesus conversation going on, all of this is rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic stuff.
I like the 5 conversations – but they have to start yesterday. Whart’s happening is the infrastructure of the C of E is collapsing. Look at the recent message from the Bishop of Exeter to the diocese,or the shortfall n the parish share in Winchester – there isn’t the money around,and the Cof E can’t muddle through this.one.
One postive way forward can be found on the Bishop of Durham’s first presiidential address to the Diocesan Synod. He says that it will be up to the Deaneries to decide on their budgets and raise the funds for vtheir decisions – and the Centre will then facilitate these decisions. So the church becomes local,and the top heavy church will – with their Bishops,Chaplains,PAs and Archdeacons be thinned out. The Bp of Durham no longer has a chaplain.
I have believed this for years ;it doesn’t deal with some of the 5 conversations but its a starrt.
I was the Rector of St James Piccadilly for 18 years and I was always conscious of the weakness of the Deanery,etc.
I have been working in the Balkans since 2000 and one thing I have learnt is that smaller organisations – flexible and free of all the absurd management language can do more than cumbersomev institutionslike the UN, or NATO or the EU -there’s a lesson for the Cof E here.
I wonder how many bishops will follow Durham’s lead?!! Thanks v much for the observations.
Donald Reeves – what was the Bishop of Exeter’s recent message to his Diocese?
I am currently undertaking a sort of pilgrimage of churches in Kent, Surrey and Sussex (including south London) – and have worshipped in many hundreds of places in those counties and a bit beyond. The impression that I have of the modern CofE is: (i) the demographic profile of 90+% of parishes is even worse than I had previously thought – almost as if there has been a demographic neutron bomb that has eliminated practically everyone under the age of 60, and this in a region of comparatively high levels of churchgoing; (ii) the quality of the clergy is, at best, uneven; (iii) many clergy do not even pretend to undertake what used to be thought of as basic pastoral activities – like visiting – doing the round of the parish, or even making a gesture of doing so, and they still speak of people coming to church rather than the church going to the people (I have heard a number of excuses for avoiding visiting, but few of them are really convincing); and (iv) the buildings “make” the CofE to a far greater extent than some clergy would wish.
As to the stipendiary ministry, I have come to the painful conclusion that – in a number of cases – it would not be much missed. Fewer stipendiaries means, in time, a smaller pensions bill for the Commissioners who, for decades, have been dissipating the capital of the Church to fund its pensioners – a certain route to ruin if the poor ROI of the last few years continues over the longer term (as it well might). I completely agree with Doug’s indication that the numbers of paid clergy be reduced to a nullity – perhaps only rural deans and higher dignitaries. The Church is already critically dependent upon PTOs/OLMs/NSMs, etc – to an extent far greater than I had anticipated.
However, I think that the retention of the buildings, even with only a residuum of Anglican worship, is of critical importance. Query whether we ought to go down a variant of the French path: all churches built prior to 1850 (say – to take in many of the Commissioners’ churches, and certain outstanding buildings constructed after that date), or newer buildings constructed on ancient sites of Anglican worship, to vest in local authorities, who would be responsible for their upkeep as public buildings. In addition, the rights of use by the CofE should perhaps be stronger than those currently enjoyed by the Church of France. The CofE should retain permanent and exclusive rights to use the buildings, gratis, and bishops should ensure that they continue to be used, if only occasionally. I appreciate that many local authorities would have difficulties with this.